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 Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Short term or long term?
Posted by Dave

It is still cold in Iola, but the advance signs are it will be a colder day on Wall Street. How volatile it will get is anybody’s guess. The prices of precious metals are swinging to and fro. I will be watching as will many other people around the world. It is an opportunity to contrast the short term and the long term in my thoughts.  I promised yesterday to provide the second part of my talk to the Sarasota Coin Club. It contains my forecasts for 2008. I guess now it will also serve as a long-term counterpoint to anything that might occur today.

One interesting thought popped into my head yesterday. It was the 28th anniversary of the last high point for gold prior to the recent record. Then it plunged. Is there something about January that incites wild swings in markets? That’s a topic worth pondering.

Part II

The Sarasota Coin Club is a great group. I had the honor of speaking to them Jan. 12 at the Florida United Numismatists convention.

I talked about my 10 forecasts for 2007 (see last week’s column) and offered 10 new forecasts. I had a great time at the meeting and sharing conversations with members before it began.

At the beginning of the talk I mentioned that I was right just six times out of 10 in 2007 and that if they simply flipped a coin, they could expect five correct answers. This was my way of confessing that even editors can’t see the future anymore clearly than anyone else.

At the risk of being wrong yet again, here are highlights of what I said:

1. My first forecast relates to the future holder of the executive director job of the American Numismatic Association. I said the ANA board would hire somebody with a numismatic hobby background. I pointed out that the prior hires of individuals who had no hobby background have not worked out, including one person who lasted all of six weeks. This time the board is going to lean in the other direction.

2. I wrote my talk before I arrived at the FUN show Wednesday. My second forecast was the ANA would be hit by more lawsuits. Even before I gave the talk, the ANA president was served on Thursday with a new suit filed by a number of grading services that have been affected by the new eBay policy about acceptable grading services. ANA was served, as were representatives of eBay and the Professional Numismatists Guild. I am right already, though it looks like hindsight now.

3. More coin shows will follow Baltimore’s lead in abolishing Sunday hours. Expenses of staging coin shows are rising and keeping up empty rooms is not cost effective.

4. Designs for the 2009 quarters for the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and U.S. territories will be outstanding and help overcome some collector resistance to the new coins.

5. In 2007, the Mint was given additional authority in the consumer protection field to control use of its name and trademarks. I pointed out that most collectors think this is a good thing, but then I forecast that something would occur in 2008 that would look to collectors like the Mint was going a little too far.

6. The paper money hobby is hot. It has no formally adopted grading standard. Companies use one that is a hybrid of tradition and the coin hobby’s numerical grades. I forecast that the paper money field will make progress in trying to forge a formal set of grading standards.

7. After my 2007 forecast, are you ready for gold? I said some time in 2008 it will hit $1,000 a troy ounce.

8. Silver will hit $20. Again, from the time I wrote the speech until I delivered it, silver rose by 10 percent.

9. I will repeat from 2007 that the compositions of the cent and the nickel will change. Wrong once. Wrong twice?

10. My off-the-wall forecast for the year was the Mint was going to do something that takes it further down the road of privatization.

That’s the list. The clock is ticking.



1/22/2008 8:59:27 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Monday, January 21, 2008
Florida a great place to start today
Posted by Dave

It is six degrees below zero. My car’s engine turned over, but it was stiff. Time to cast my mind back to my recent trip to Florida. Ah, that’s better. I want to provide readers of my blog the contents of a speech I gave there.

I will divide it into two parts as I did for Numismatic News. The first part covers my forecasts for 2007. The second part, which I expect to post tomorrow, will cover 2008.

Part I

My speech before the Sarasota Coin Club Jan. 12 at the Florida United Numismatists convention will have been given by the time you read this. It has not yet been delivered as I write this.

Deadlines require that I get this down on paper before I leave for 2008’s opening U.S. coin and paper money convention in Orlando. I am looking forward to going and feel a bit restless to get on the move.

My speech has two parts. Both involve 10 forecasts. The first half involves toting up my 2007 results. The second half involves making new forecasts. Will I have the courage to make new ones after I have confessed the prior results? That part will come in next week’s column.

I hope the results here show that I have some rational basis for making my forecasts. For sure, I am not always right.

The way I score last year’s results, I think I was right in six of 10 forecasts. I spectacularly missed what I would consider the two most important ones. A news story would start with those two failures, but let me proceed in the order that I made the forecasts.

Last year’s FUN convention opened with the failure of a 1913 Liberty Head nickel to sell at auction. My first forecast was posed as a question: do coin price run-ups end when someone rings a gong? Basically, I answered it as “yes.” I told the story of the end of the 1980 bull market at the Lincoln, Neb., Central States show when everyone got the message simultaneously.

While I don’t think that the coin bull market has ended, it is quite clear that we shifted gears a little lower in 2007. Prices can only rocket ahead so long before there is a pause. The gong rang. We listened.

2. More consolidation in the business? I think the answer is yes. Sources for funding are getting more concentrated. How do I prove it? In this space I cannot, but I think the facts are on my side and I call this a correct forecast.

3. Gold at $600. Whoops. My mistake was thinking the rare coin market and bullion would move in tandem. They didn’t. I need a heaping spoonful of humility. I repeat $834.90 over and over.

4. Silver $12. Actual, $14.797.

5. 2007 proof Buffalo mintage. I got to play with numbers so I was dead on target. I said 60,000 pieces. The number in the Jan. 1 report was 58,634. Basically I said historical experience put output at one-quarter of the first year of issue.

6. There would be a feeding frenzy for First Spouse coins. This is a winner, though the frenzy ended by the fourth issue.

7. It would be a great year for average collectors. For this you have to take my word. With all the avenues available to average collectors now, they cannot help but have better years than collectors of the past. My e-mail, mail and direct contacts indicate increasing activity for the average hobbyist.

8. More lawsuits. Looking at the American Numismatic Association alone made this accurate.

9. New compositions for cent and nickel. Treasury tried to get the ball rolling in the autumn but nothing happened. Mark this down as wrong for 2007.

10. New alloys will involve plated steel. Mark this down as wrong for 2007.

There you have Part I. Of course, the best part of these forecasts is being able to make them to a great group of people in a wonderful place to be in January.



1/21/2008 8:54:29 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Friday, January 18, 2008
Hobby owes debt to Diane Wolf
Posted by Dave

Diane Wolf died Jan. 10 and the wolf0205a.jpg obituary appeared yesterday. I could hardly believe it. She was 53. I have been out of touch with her for a decade or so, but I always thought of her fondly. She was a hobby pioneer.

It was Wolf who laid the groundwork in Washington, D.C., for the current circulating coinage renaissance that we are all enjoying. State and territories quarters, new nickels in 2004-2006, Sacagawea and Presidential dollars and even the Mint administrative philosophy of running itself as a business all have roots in Wolf’s advocacy of changing circulating coin designs.

She conducted her campaign first from her membership on the U.S. Commission of Fine Arts, which advises the Treasury secretary on coin designs.

I had a ringside seat and helped her all I could. The effort was conceived in late 1986 after she had made some remarks at a Fine Arts Commission meeting that I and others interpreted as being favorable to coinage redesign, a goal collectors have held for many years.

I asked Paul Green to interview her. He did. He had a political background as well as a coin background. He knew how Washington worked. He and Diane hit it off. He did all he could to help her.

The interview was great. I talked to Cliff Mishler and asked him if Numismatic News could support Wolf in the effort to change coin designs. He agreed. We launched the newspaper campaign in early 1987.

We started out advocating changing both sides of each circulating coin denomination in sequence, but the realities of politics suggested retaining obverse designs and changing reverse designs only.

This has been the template used on quarters and nickels ever since, and soon Sacagawea dollars.

Wolf persuaded the Senate to back the concept but it always foundered in the House of Representatives. Wolf rubbed Frank Annunzio, the longtime coinage czar, the wrong way. Such is politics.

Ultimately new people, new elected representatives, a new Mint director and new political realities in Washington brought all of the elements into proper alignment.

Wolf could not claim to be the author of what happened, but without her persuading all coin collectors to think it was possible again to have new designs, little or nothing would have happened ever.

Imagine a hobby without state quarters, Lewis and Clark nickels, Sacagawea and Presidential dollars. It would be a much duller place.

Thanks, Diane. You made a difference. Rest in peace.



1/18/2008 9:09:45 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Thursday, January 17, 2008
Good start to 2008 by ANA
Posted by Dave

I think the American Numismatic Association board of governors should be commended for the public forum it held Jan. 12 at the Florida United Numismatists convention in Orlando.

President Barry Stuppler showed a command of facts and a sense of humor as he took questions. He had anticipated a need to provide what he called the “Presidents Report on the State of the Association,” which he handed out to those in attendance.

It is an eight-page handout with solid information in it. This is the first time it has ever been done. I don’t remember that anyone said thank you, but I do remember that he was criticized for not handing it out sooner.

I think the criticism is symptomatic of some pent-up frustrations from prior years rather than a legitimate one. Stuppler took it in stride and kept moving forward.

It was announced that the ANA board would meet four times a year on a regular schedule. The first meeting would be in January at the FUN show, the second at the National Money Show, which is usually in March, the third at the World’s Fair of Money that occurs in a July-August time window over the years and an October meeting at headquarters in Colorado Springs.

Hobbyists should be able to very easily attend the meetings if they are at the conventions.

It takes effort to put the ANA back on a course that the members will approve. There is frustration about lawsuits expressed by the membership, but the legal counsel, Ron Sirna, had a very good metaphor. He said litigation is like riding a toboggan. Once you start downhill, it is very difficult to do anything other than complete the ride.

Living in Wisconsin as I do, I thought it was a very apt observation. He said the ANA was working on this issue as diligently as it can but he was not going to share his legal strategy with the public.

That seems logical. You can’t show all your cards in a poker game before the betting stops.

The board showed a constructive seriousness of purpose and was not defensive. Will that lead to success? There is no way to know, but it seems like a good start to me.



1/17/2008 9:02:55 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Wednesday, January 16, 2008
You might just want to wait
Posted by Dave

Proof of how dependent we have all become on the Internet was given yesterday by the opening of the U.S. Mint’s Bald Eagle Commemorative Coin Program.

Because of the process of migration of the Web site from one server to another, online orders could not be taken when the program began at noon Eastern Time yesterday.

Hobbyists were referred to the Mint’s telephone ordering number, 1-800-USA-MINT. Enough collectors responded to jam the lines and the lines are currently still backed up as this is written. I received e-mails from readers yesterday afternoon asking what was going on and did I know that they were having difficulty getting through on the telephone.

My thanks go to all readers who provided me with the updates.

Because so many regular Internet buyers were being funneled through the telephones, it is probably a good idea that I point out that product order limits are in place and allowed quantities are high enough that collectors shouldn’t be too concerned about quick sellouts.

Last year, neither Mint commemorative program sold out its primary offerings and even the previously sure-fire Legacy Set did not reach its 50,000 maximum.

That, of course, doesn’t mean a sellout can’t happen. But let’s look at the numbers and see what you think.

Overall maximum mintages are 100,000 gold $5s, 500,000 silver dollars and 750,000 clad half dollars. These are pretty standard totals.

There are some special sets within these totals. A three-piece proof set will have a maximum of 25,000.

A Coin and Medal Set that features an uncirculated dollar and a bronze bald eagle medal from the National Wildlife Refuge System Centennial Medal Series has a maximum of 50,000.

A Bald Eagle Young Collector’s Set features an uncirculated bald eagle half dollar and its total production will be whatever is ordered Jan. 15-April 15.

Introductory prices end Feb. 14 at 5 p.m. Eastern Time. Prices below indicate the current price followed by the post-Feb. 14 price in parentheses.

Proof $5 $294.95 ($319.95)
Uncirculated $5, $284.95 ($309.95)
Proof dollar, $39.95 ($43.95)
Uncirculated dollar $35.95 ($37.95)
Proof half $9.95 ($10.95)
Uncirculated half $7.95 ($8.95)

There are no introductory prices for the set options. The three-coin proof set is $369.95, the Young Collector’s Set is $14.95 and the Coin and Medal Set is $44.95.

Order limits for 30 days are 100 coins per household for the individual coins, one three-coin proof set and five Coin and Medal Sets. Because there is no maximum, there is no order limit for the Young Collector’s Set.

Later this year a Legacy set with a proof dollar will be offered.

So if you have not yet gotten through to the Mint on the telephone, you now have the information you need to determine whether you want to wait until the online ordering mechanism is back up and running.



1/16/2008 9:06:59 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [1]
 Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Use the phone
Posted by Dave

Sales of Bald Eagle commemorative coins began today at noon Eastern time, but to order you must use the telephone. The Mint is migrating to another Web server and that will keep the online service down for a day or two. Telephone 1-800-USA-MINT.



1/15/2008 12:39:20 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [1]
Enjoy the trend, don't rely on it
Posted by Dave

Rugged individualism is an American trait. It is mostly a good thing, but it can be a bad thing when it turns into the “I don’t need no stinkin’ government” retirement planning.

Gold is currently hot. Coins are having a good run. House prices generally are flat or declining depending on where you live. The stock market is in a slow-motion panic. Inflation is rising. And the usual punching bag, Social Security, continues to play its role.

Rather than interpret current conditions as an indictment of all things that are not currently strong, prudent retirement planning needs to continue to focus on diversification. Owners of gold have done quite well since 2001. However, they waited more than 20 years for the present good times to get going.

In 1980, if you had been ready to retire and had been convinced by the “I don’t need no stinkin’ government” advisors of the time, you would have had a large chunk in an asset that then proceeded to drop by more than two-thirds from its $850 peak. It would have been nice to have had some Morgan dollars during the 1980s bull market to buck that trend. It would have been nice to have some money in the stock market. It would have been nice to have a piece of real estate. It was nice to draw on inflation-indexed Social Security. It all adds up. Being dependent on any one thing can be a recipe for eating dog food at the end of the month.

There are some gold buyers from 1980 who are only now cashing out, 28 years later and a whole lot grayer. The last seven years have been great, they recognize, but waiting 28 years to break even is strong evidence that diversification is important. It is too bad that their voices are not generally heard over the gold-advocacy din.

I’m not knocking gold. It could go to $1,500 or $2,000 an ounce. Buy some. Enjoy some. Give your wife a nice gold coin necklace,  but don’t put your whole future on the line with it.

Coin collectors, of course, should keep doing what they are doing. The general give and take and active engagement in the market is not only fun, but it is good training in the art of diversification of assets. You don’t want to be all in BU 1950-D nickel rolls at $1,000 in 1964 or MS-65 1881-S silver dollars at the same price in the late 1980s. Being a collector forces diversification and we are all the wiser for it.



1/15/2008 9:09:13 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Monday, January 14, 2008
You could hear the floor action
Posted by Dave

It sure was nice to hear the buzz on the bourse floor of the Florida United Numismatists convention on the Thursday, Friday and Saturday of the show this past week.

Not only were dealers there doing what they always do, the public showed up in significant numbers.

Former American Numismatic Association President Bob Campbell said Saturday afternoon when I caught up with him on the bourse floor that the things that sold best were his “catchers,” or eye-catchers. These are the things that catch the eye of first-time buyers as they walk by his table.

Catchers are things like gold nuggets, police badges and hobo nickels. He cited a few other things, too, but he was speaking so rapidly I wasn’t able to take the whole list down.

This is interesting because gold was approaching $900 an ounce and silver was over $16. Not everybody is caught up in the bullion investment wave.

Sunday morning at the annual meeting of the members of FUN, Donna Moon, who handled public registration, said attendance was 2,800 Thursday, 2,450 Friday and 3,250 Saturday. Those numbers didn’t include dealers with badges going in and out multiple times nor did it include members of the public who kept their identity stickers for the duration so they wouldn’t have to register a second time.

I cite the numbers because they strike me as significant.

It was a good show. It is good to be home, even if I did get into Iola around three hours late. We sat on the tarmac of the Orlando airport for about two and half hours yesterday afternoon waiting for a thunderstorm to pass. And here I was worrying about snow.



1/14/2008 9:01:29 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [1]
 Friday, January 11, 2008
Old friends are good ones at NSDR
Posted by dave

Fridays at the annual Florida United Numismatists conventions are always topped off for me by attendance at the National Silver Dollar Roundtable dinner.

It is a great time with good hobby friends at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse. I eat more red meat than is good for me, but how can I resist?

I burn a few calories off by taking photographs of the awards. I am looking forward to seeing who wins them tonight.

Randy Campbell always does an excellent job as emcee.

It is gratifying to see how hard work and reputation add up to recognition and heartfelt congratulations by hobby peers.

The years fly by and it is by these milestones that the participants remember their time in the hobby.



1/11/2008 9:01:35 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [0]
 Thursday, January 10, 2008
Did I make it to FUN?
Posted by dave

I am here in Orlando, Fla. Four Numismatic News staffers set out for the Florida United Numismatists convention on three separate flights. Before we had even left the office Tuesday night, Sue Konkel was already trying to make alternative arrangements for a Wednesday flight that was cancelled many hours ahead of time.

Travel in the winter from central Wisconsin through Chicago is always an adventure. My Dec. 1 transit was delayed to Dec. 2 by an early snow storm. Don’t get me wrong. I would rather be safe than sorry, but the best outcome is to get to FUN with minimal problems and delays.

Well. I made it. Now I just have to worry about getting home on Sunday.



1/10/2008 9:04:26 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [1]
 Wednesday, January 09, 2008
Gold making bold moves
Posted by dave

Gold just keeps on pouring it on. It jumped $18.40 yesterday. That brought the close to $878 a troy ounce, so whatever old high you use, $825, $850 or $875, we are now safely over all of them. We are on historic ground. Can $900 be more than just a coffee break away?

Yes, my tone is flippant. Movements are getting to be very large in short spans of time. That is dangerous for markets because they tend to become more unstable with larger incremental hikes in the price.

For long-term staying power, 20 trading days of $5 movements are better and more long lasting than $100 in five days. They also allow for better business conditions on coin show bourse floors. With the Florida United Numismatists bourse setting up later today, there can be no question that coin dealer behavior will be affected by any large swings in precious metal prices.

No question, though, it is the very large moves that get the adrenalin pumping and capture the headlines.



1/9/2008 9:07:01 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [2]
 Tuesday, January 08, 2008
Do you know the right price?
Posted by dave

I think thanks are in order to the individuals who have posted comments on this blog in the past week or so. It has been hard slogging for casual readers with statistics of precious metals prices and rates of return posted.

I think the topics were worth covering from time to time. I have joked in this space that mentioning Britney Spears would get more attention. That is still true, but that is what gives the thoughtful people the edge in their numismatic hobby lives. Vicarious thrills are one thing, but they are not bankable in the long run.

Who was the Britney Spears equivalent in January 1980? I have no idea. Perhaps someone will be kind enough to post a name or two on this column to enlighten us.

Though few of us remember the pop cultural figures, we do remember the metals prices and consider them to be significant. We use this information to guide future decisions.

It has been pointed out that in inflation-adjusted terms that the price of gold is far below 1980’s price. There is no question about that.

What focuses my mind on the question, though, is what is the appropriate value of gold relative to everything else? We can make a case that gold was too high in 1980 relative to everything else. It was too low in 1968 at the official price of $35 an ounce.

At those extremes, decisions to bur or sell might seem obvious. There were lines in front of coins shops in 1980 by individuals dumping their precious metal holdings as fast as they could. That should have told us something.

So far, that phenomenon has not occurred again here, but supposedly it has started in India.

Does it matter? Yes. Is it definitive? I don’t think so.



1/8/2008 9:04:20 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [2]